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The Great Train Robbery Continued

Following the death of Ronnie Biggs and the release of 2 BBC Dramas documenting the events of The Great Train Robbery, I thought I would just publish a short update to my previous blog on this subject.

The first drama, which was broadcast last night, and focused on the robbers angle of the offence provided us with a few clues of the impending role that fingerprints would play in the investigation.  It certainly depicted that the robbers were careful to wear gloves ‘for the majority of their time at Leatherslade Farm’…. but not all the time; and due to them having to vacate their hideout in a hurry, they feared it was only a matter of time before evidence was found.

New Scotland Yard - December 2013
New Scotland Yard – December 2013

Tonight’s episode will focus on the police response and investigation.

The tasters on the programme website hints that fingerprints will play a prominent role, with Tim Pigott-Smith being cast in the role of ‘the finger print man’, DS Maurice Ray of the New Scotland Yard Fingerprint Department (although Mr. Ray is ranked as a Superintendent at this time in the book ‘The Fingerprint story’).

There is a short description of Superintendent Rays court testimony, as reported by The Glasgow Herald, published online.

I’m interested to know who the fingerprint consultant used in the programme was.  Mr Pigott-Smith states he is a retired officer.

If you are unable to watch tonight’s programme then it will be available on BBC IPlayer, as is last nights installment.

I will hopefully get around to reviewing the drama in the near future.

Who is J.F.S.? A Fingerprint Mystery

A few years ago I was approached to help solve a very interesting mystery.

A fellow fingerprint enthusiast had bought an old “fingerprint book”, and inside was an envelope, which had nothing to do with the book in which it was housed.

On the envelope there was writing that says New Scotland Yard 14th April 1920, and very professionally taken fingerprint impressions claiming to be the right fore finger of a Superintendent Collins and the right fore and middle fingers of a J.F.S..

Envelope Prints

The first question I was asked was whether I had anyway of establishing whether the impressions of Superintendent Collins were in fact those of Superintendent Charles Stockley Collins, the man in charge of the New Scotland Yard Fingerprint Department at that time and the person responsible of introducing fingerprint evidence to the British courts at the Harry Jackson and Stratton Brothers trials.

As I had uncovered that I am related to Superintendent Collins, it was assumed that I may have found a set of prints of the great man to be able to compare… unfortunately that assumption was incorrect… but that wasn’t going to stop me.

First of all I remembered that there were fingerprints associated to a portrait of Charles published in Volume 5 of The Police Encyclopaedia by Hargrave L. Adam; but on close inspection I believe, based on my experience, that they are probably impressions of his left and right thumbs.

Thumb Prints

I hadn’t quite given up hope yet…..

I remembered that Charles had 2 published works of his own to his name:

  • Fingerprint Clues – A booklet explaining the fingerprint system and how to look for prints left by criminals at crime scenes
  • A Telegraphic Code for Finger-Print Formula and a System for Sub Classification of Single Digital Impressions – a book on how to convey fingerprints via telegraph

I know that anywhere that I have had an article published, or I have published myself; I have used my own fingerprint impressions.  There are a couple of reasons for this….

Firstly, it is acts as a signature / autograph (although it’s a little on the egotistical side).  As my experience tells me that no other person has, has ever had, or will ever have the same fingerprint as me; I see it is a good form of authenticity.

Secondly, if I have to illustrate any fingerprints in an article or document, then it is much safer and easier to use my own; as I am not sure of the legal implications of publishing another persons fingerprint without their permission… but I will leave that question open to a future post.

Eureka!!!!…  On page 12 of Fingerprint Clues there is a mock threatening note from a Bill Sykes with 2 finger impressions (probably a right forefinger and right middle finger in sequence).


After a quick comparison between the impression on the left of the note with one of the left forefinger impressions on the envelope attributed to Superintendent Collins , I was quickly able to establish that they were made by the same person, and in all likelihood that they were those of Superintendent Charles Stockley Collins.


Unfortunately I have never been able to establish who is J.F.S.

It was very common to get visitors to the Fingerprint Department in New Scotland Yard in its formative years e.g. journalists, overseas police officers, officers from other parts of the UK; and I am sure that Superintendent Collins took great delight in demonstrating the fingerprint system that he helped in adopting.

I have asked many fingerprint historians and members of Stockley-Collins family for any ideas, but to no avail.

Can anyone out there offer any clues as to whose fingerprints are J.F.S.?